Though I imagine the Doctor would be horrified that she thinks he would leave her behind for being sad. He would be. Doesn't mean that Rose won't continue to freak out about it poor love. It's not even the sad so much, it's the fact that she took advantage of him and is terrified he doesn't feel the same and it'll be this huge awkward thing and he'll ask her to leave because he can't cope with human relationship stuff. SIGH. What a mess indeed!
Though I refuse to believe the Doctor is as *completely* clueless as he's seeming...I mean, basically, Rose has been widowed and he's ignoring her need to grieve- I don't know if it's because he really does believe John is nothing more than a vague figment or if he feels like John is a part of himself and he's still here, so there's nothing to grieve. He's definitely not as clueless as he's pretending to be, but we all know that he's good at pretending things are fine when they're clearly not. I also don't think at this stage that he's really grasped just how much Rose fell for John and she of course isn't telling him anything much so even if he suspected it he probably wouldn't have the courage to bring it up for fear of stuffing everything up - same as her. Also also we have to remember that the Doctor deals with grief in a very different way to Rose and they don't necessarily understand each other completely in that respect. She might respect his grieving process and vis a vis but it doesn't mean they understand how each can deal with their stuff in such different ways.
As for whether or not John is a part of him or just a figment...well deep down he KNOWS what John is, but even if he admitted it to himself I don't know that he'd be able to tell Rose for fear of where they might go next. The whole thing with John and Rose is really cementing his fear of losing her one day - to somebody else who can give her something that he obviously can't. He's too old, too broken, too set in his ways. But that comes up next chapter in a big way so I'll shut up now :P
Loved the little throwback to his regeneration with the "You could change back." Very twist-the-knife, especially since this time he can't regain her trust by insisting that he *is* the same... I'm glad somebody picked up on that. I've had a lot of little nods to stuff on the show and that one was very deliberate ;)
Also, he may be alien and he may not love/want Rose the same way that John did, but it probably still must be frustrating for him to be judged against another version of himself (human, at that!) and obviously be found wanting. Yep. This comes up in a biiiiig way in the next chapter. VERY big.
And even if he were interested in Rose sexually, there's really no opportunity for him to let Rose know. ("Would you like to shag me, since you did shag that bloke that was sort of me?" is probably not the best pick up line...) LOLLLLLLLLL. You know what's sad? That sounds like just the sort of pick up line Ten might try XD XD XD ahahahahaha...
It's funny though, how Rose has been really distressed and apologized for taking advantage of him, when really, considering how things went down and all of the Doctor's companion issues you think *he* would be the one distressed and apologizing for taking advantage of her! That's got to have crossed his mind at some point. Well he's very good at ignoring things he doesn't want to think about. Certainly it would have crossed his mind, I just don't think he's willing to deal with it and is hoping by ignoring it/not talking about it it will hopefully go away and they won't have to talk about it. :P oh Doctor...
Oh, and I liked the bit with the coat at the end, because whether the Doctor picked up on Rose's fears of getting left behind or not, him lending her his coat is a pretty obvious sign he's not going to ditch her. :) Well, yes, haha. But she's too busy freaking atm to realise that he'd never leave his Janis Joplin coat behind, let alone her.
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Re: DON'T WORRY ROSE, I MISS JOHN SMITH TOO.
Date: 2011-01-17 01:09 am (UTC)Though I imagine the Doctor would be horrified that she thinks he would leave her behind for being sad.
He would be. Doesn't mean that Rose won't continue to freak out about it poor love. It's not even the sad so much, it's the fact that she took advantage of him and is terrified he doesn't feel the same and it'll be this huge awkward thing and he'll ask her to leave because he can't cope with human relationship stuff. SIGH. What a mess indeed!
Though I refuse to believe the Doctor is as *completely* clueless as he's seeming...I mean, basically, Rose has been widowed and he's ignoring her need to grieve- I don't know if it's because he really does believe John is nothing more than a vague figment or if he feels like John is a part of himself and he's still here, so there's nothing to grieve.
He's definitely not as clueless as he's pretending to be, but we all know that he's good at pretending things are fine when they're clearly not. I also don't think at this stage that he's really grasped just how much Rose fell for John and she of course isn't telling him anything much so even if he suspected it he probably wouldn't have the courage to bring it up for fear of stuffing everything up - same as her. Also also we have to remember that the Doctor deals with grief in a very different way to Rose and they don't necessarily understand each other completely in that respect. She might respect his grieving process and vis a vis but it doesn't mean they understand how each can deal with their stuff in such different ways.
As for whether or not John is a part of him or just a figment...well deep down he KNOWS what John is, but even if he admitted it to himself I don't know that he'd be able to tell Rose for fear of where they might go next. The whole thing with John and Rose is really cementing his fear of losing her one day - to somebody else who can give her something that he obviously can't. He's too old, too broken, too set in his ways. But that comes up next chapter in a big way so I'll shut up now :P
Loved the little throwback to his regeneration with the "You could change back." Very twist-the-knife, especially since this time he can't regain her trust by insisting that he *is* the same...
I'm glad somebody picked up on that. I've had a lot of little nods to stuff on the show and that one was very deliberate ;)
Also, he may be alien and he may not love/want Rose the same way that John did, but it probably still must be frustrating for him to be judged against another version of himself (human, at that!) and obviously be found wanting.
Yep. This comes up in a biiiiig way in the next chapter. VERY big.
And even if he were interested in Rose sexually, there's really no opportunity for him to let Rose know. ("Would you like to shag me, since you did shag that bloke that was sort of me?" is probably not the best pick up line...)
LOLLLLLLLLL. You know what's sad? That sounds like just the sort of pick up line Ten might try XD XD XD ahahahahaha...
It's funny though, how Rose has been really distressed and apologized for taking advantage of him, when really, considering how things went down and all of the Doctor's companion issues you think *he* would be the one distressed and apologizing for taking advantage of her! That's got to have crossed his mind at some point.
Well he's very good at ignoring things he doesn't want to think about. Certainly it would have crossed his mind, I just don't think he's willing to deal with it and is hoping by ignoring it/not talking about it it will hopefully go away and they won't have to talk about it. :P oh Doctor...
Oh, and I liked the bit with the coat at the end, because whether the Doctor picked up on Rose's fears of getting left behind or not, him lending her his coat is a pretty obvious sign he's not going to ditch her. :)
Well, yes, haha. But she's too busy freaking atm to realise that he'd never leave his Janis Joplin coat behind, let alone her.
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